Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 19:46:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Robert Wade Brown 
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Subject: Re: isdn action lists,,, suggestions

James,
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At 15:33 1/15/96 -0500, James Love wrote:
>We are having requests to help people set up more localized action lists 
>for discussions of problems with particular state tariffs....
>
>When possible, we prefer to defer to local lists set up by others, such 
>as the Utah and CA-PacBell lists (which are mentioned in the state by 
>state updates on the CPT Web page).   However, it may be useful for us to 
>do a bit more for some states.  On way would be just setting up new lists 
>for every state where these is an interest... another approach would be 
>to set up a list for each providers, such as ISDN-BA, ISDN-USW, 
>ISDN-GTE... etc......  I kinda like the provider model, since the tariff 
>actions in each state are highly relevant to each other.  Finally, we 
>might just forget the splinter lists, and only keep isdn up, allow people 
>to set their own special lists as they see fit.  Suggestions are welcome 
>on this.  I am motivated somewhat by persons from Virginia who want more 
>attention to their problems... jamie
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>James Love, love@tap.org
>P.O. Box 19367, Washington, DC 20036; v. 202/387-8030; f. 202/234-5176
>Consumer Project on Technology; http://www.essential.org/cpt/cpt.html
>Taxpayer Assets Project; http://www.essential.org/tap/tap.html
>
>
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Robert Wade Brown... Independent Telecommunications Consultant
Post Office Box 49049   Austin, TX 78765-9049   rwb@robert.com
Telephones: 512/349- Ofc: 7070 Fax: 7171  Res: 7272  Fax: 7373


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Subject: Re: News from GTE here in Texas on ISDN
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2/26/95 6:31pm ct

        You've just about got it on the GTE ISDN tariff. I strongly
encourage you and yours to become involved with the TIUG (Texas ISDN Users
Group) regulatory effort to improve the situation.

Best,
Robert
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At 17:41 2/27/96 -0500, Larry Rosenman wrote:
>
>F Y I from here in Dallas...
>
>
>>From peterson@mail.zgnews.com Tue Feb 27 16:37:54 CST 1996
>Article: 2741 of dfw.internet.providers
>Xref: lerami dfw.internet.providers:2741
>Path:
lerami!newshost.cyberramp.net!egsner!newshost.convex.com!sunsrv12.clr.com!su
nsrv10.clr.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed
.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news.computek.net!usenet
>From: peterson@mail.zgnews.com
>Newsgroups: dfw.internet.providers
>Subject: GTE's new ISDN tariff
>Date: 27 Feb 1996 20:40:19 GMT
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>
>  Late last week I received a mailing from GTE "discussing" GTE's
>revised ISDN tariff.  This article summarizes my understang of the
>rather crude document.
>
>  1. GTE will allow ISDN customers with service under the current tariff
>to remain ("be grandfathered") under that tariff.
>
>  2. The old tariff always established the lines as part of a
>"Centranet" offering, but the new tariff offers a single line rate.
>
>  3. The new tariff eliminates the monthly per mile charge, wrapping
>several monthly components of the bill into a single "Access" charge of
>between $40.50 (single line) and $85.87 (Centranet Extended Metro
>service) per month.
>
>  4. The new tariff distinguishes between residential and business
>lines, where the old tariff did not.
>
>  5. The new tariff continues GTE's $0.03/minute charge for Circuit
>Switched Data calls except for a single $40/month option available only
>to residential customers.  Single line business customers can purchase
>50 and 100 hour blocks of time at a discount, but (apparently) pay the
>$0.03/minute for minutes in excess of the prepaid block.  The discounts
>are not available to Centranet customers.
>
>  6. GTE no longer offers lines with only Circuit Switched Data.  All
>CSD offerings also include voice capabilities.
>
>  As nearly as I can tell (which is pretty poor), charges for my current
>lines (2 lines at $42/month and 1 line at $38/month) will rise to about
>$52/month.
>
>  ISP's will need to continue offering call backs to GTE customers,
>since GTE retained the per minute charge for data calls!  I know some
>ISP's intended to drop this offering once GTE filed the new tariff.
>
>    Bob
>-- 
>Bob Peterson              BBS Dialup: 214 403 9406 to 28800 V.34
>peterson@mail.zgnews.com  BBS Telnet: bbs.zgnews.com    Web: www.zgnews.com
>
>
>
>-- 
>Larry Rosenman
>Phone: +1 214-399-0210 (voice) Internet: ler@lerami.lerctr.org
>US Mail: 900 Lake Isle Circle, Irving, TX 75060-7726
>
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Rates for ISDN in Austin Texas from Southwestern Bell are $46.00 for the 
ISDN service plus the $1.70 FCC approved charge plus the local taxes
creating a $69.61 per month charge for unlimited usage.
I do not know if the ISDN rates are the same in the other Southwesten Bell
Texas areas.
This rate is a residential rate.

Wayne Wedemeyer
w.wedemeyer@utexas.edu